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i guess it means something

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i got ufos on my mind

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is it even raining on me so bright above

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is it even raining on me

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is

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i got a ufo that's on my mind

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it is a good day today

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i hope you feel the same

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um

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don't even know what freaking day it is

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it's wednesday the 13th sweet

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yesterday was a doozy wasn't it

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um let me know if you can hear me all

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right and everything i'm trying

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but yeah so we have

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we we're gonna have some pretty good

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stuff to cover today and i look forward

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to it i've definitely been on the whole

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document thing lately and

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i can take a toll on it for sure

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and i like doing it

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but this came just like at the perfect

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doldrums just a little bit um so

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thoughts what do i think and what do i

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just feel feel it off you know and stop

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thinking so much and you know what

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a lot of this is uh it's so revealing

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that lukaszki is coming out and colin

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we will get to just about as much as i

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can cover i haven't done one of these in

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a while actually where i cover

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a different person's interview um but

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um first yeah let's let's give some

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shout outs hello

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megan what's up

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um laura

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robert what's happening buddy

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awesome to see you as always

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ex-uab what's happening

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maybe a depressing avatar to have but um

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everything that he's that he did

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tucson perhaps i think they were like i

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the other ones that would be great

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i completely miss this gold you are

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i'm wearing my witness citizen t-shirt

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um trisha what's up oh don't worry about

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it you can always rerun it if you want

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hello how are you um g nin

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did i screw that up i'm sorry

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spooky morales what's happening

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um love that you guys are here love it

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love all the new folks

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um new faces all that stuff all right so

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some links in there for you all to

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you know kind of uh catch up and and get

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heard that um but yesterday was like the

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reveal everybody knew um george did a

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uh fine folks and mr kellier also i

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skinwalker which is another book um mr

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thanks for coming christian

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yeah um love the community filling off

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the live shows hell yeah hell yeah oh we

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got a book buyer already that's great

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um just make sure you tell everyone it's

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yeah and you know what like people you

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my own thoughts that i wrestle with but

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right away you know you notice people

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making fun of the design and um that

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kind of thing it looks old school

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george is old school classy

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sophisticated and i think it represents

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nancy drews because those were the

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hopefully dude's not pissed but i

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uh stole this

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skinwalkers at the pentagon unmasked

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the massive scope of the pentagon's

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landmark study

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washington dc and was

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um the advanced aerospace weapon system

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applications program or asap as it was

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known investigated the tic tac and other

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nuts and bolts ufo events analyzed

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phenomenon that the government

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ranch so maybe that first book would be

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families resulting in frightening

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first of all so it's like you want to

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um skinwalker is it

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that the interest in studying uaps and

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related phenomena will be increased and

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harry reid who we were very um lucky to

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everything else that came with it but it

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report on the soviet and now russian uap

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which i think is probably going to be

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pretty vast and complex just considering

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how long they've been studying you know

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psychokinesis and telepathy and all that

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i'm sure it was way before but i know

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it's at least since you know the 40s

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late 30s and it's probably before that

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too so that just kind of gives you an

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idea of their openness to take on

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subjects like this so i'm sure you know

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for better for worse they're pretty far

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and details to design a build of a

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functional prototype for an autonomous

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uap surveillance platform

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not too shabby

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and i was thinking i could just go

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you know the interview a little bit just

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um with my thoughts because it was it

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interview and for me personally i know a

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lot of people have been more um invested

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i did put his website on

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megan just get along

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get along yo

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hopefully lukaszki doesn't mind that i

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picked this photo but you know

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is is what it is

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yeah so anyways i was saying she's a ufo

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drill and other people have been into

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this for a while that

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this story and these characters um this

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for me is the first time and maybe

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others i'm not sure the first time i've

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heard him speak um and really

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you know gave

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you know more than a few minutes

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thinking about dude

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um i know he's been mentioned plenty

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um but you know

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you just pick and choose what you have

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time for and what you want to get into

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so thankfully we have people like joe to

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document all that stuff i put his

302
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website in our description if you want

303
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to go to that he does a great job

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um

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you know putting this all in writing and

306
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saving it for historical context and

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everything so i would go there and check

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it out

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first of all they addressed the

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confusion with the ossep in eight tip

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um which i will admit there's been a lot

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of confusion some of which is

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you know susan gow others is you know

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just the people part of this community

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because to be honest it's not really the

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easiest thing to

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you know make heads or tails out of

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right especially if you're not you know

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someone who's really

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meticulous on little details like this

321
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because you have a normal life

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so i totally understand that in new york

323
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times story was thrown in there but

324
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anyways this guy was super

325
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um

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professional about it and you know

327
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didn't really blame anyone for it and so

328
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dod was nice blah blah blah

329
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and

330
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just you know kind of for the record try

331
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to make it as clear as possible i

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believe

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oh that's weird

334
00:15:32,069 --> 00:15:29,440
um

335
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yeah 22 mil went to ossep

336
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and

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atip was basically a nickname for it

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right

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uh

340
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a tick that you know that went to the

341
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pentagon or whatever after asset

342
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went away

343
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um etip

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was not funded it had 0 budget

345
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but anyways asap was largely and

346
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primarily ufo encounters military and

347
00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:02,240
civilian

348
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um hundreds of reports

349
00:16:16,949 --> 00:16:14,949
and then

350
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um

351
00:16:20,310 --> 00:16:18,639
when it was just a tick they had zero

352
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budget and they were just investigating

353
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very specific in particular military

354
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encounters

355
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so yeah

356
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you know a bit more things that lukaszki

357
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said is like um the security was very

358
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tight like nobody really even knew that

359
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they were doing their thing

360
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um there was a 20-year af osi person

361
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veteran um that i think helped with that

362
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so

363
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it's interesting because i've just been

364
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looking at osi files so much

365
00:17:04,630 --> 00:16:58,880
granted back in the 50s but

366
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other things that he said yeah super

367
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large database um and if you wanted to

368
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like something about uh revealing the

369
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content you would have it'd be in the

370
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proposal basically

371
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so you'd have to see the proposal to

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reveal the content of the program

373
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and

374
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interesting part is i believe he said a

375
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so that is very interesting

376
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very interesting i'd love to see that

377
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film

378
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but you know when i hear that atip had

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zero funding some things start to make

380
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sense and why susan gao was kind of

381
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doing what she was doing right

382
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um with you know i can't guarantee i'm

383
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going to be specific with the things

384
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that she said um but more or less it was

385
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:05,280
you know um lou was not the head of this

386
00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:07,760
program or had anything to do with it

387
00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:09,760
even maybe i think at one point

388
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um which

389
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she can really say because

390
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:17,200
you if there's no budget he wasn't

391
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getting paid he wasn't on a

392
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staff really

393
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you know and it was super secret i guess

394
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so

395
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you know that's that's pretty

396
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um

397
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alejandro

398
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shared an email actually

399
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about

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uh with lou like writing susan gowen how

401
00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:42,480
disappointed he was and her giving her

402
00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:44,720
another chance to clear this up i'm so

403
00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:46,640
happy you cleared this other thing up

404
00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,880
you know just kind of trying to be nice

405
00:18:53,270 --> 00:18:50,720
play the role and then

406
00:18:54,789 --> 00:18:53,280
say come on what the hell are you doing

407
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,799
on the other hand

408
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um

409
00:19:04,710 --> 00:18:59,200
but yeah that was a pretty intense email

410
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:06,150
screwing up a lot of that stuff and

411
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:08,160
maybe it's on purpose maybe it isn't i

412
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:10,960
really don't know but it has had a large

413
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:13,200
you know role in the confusion with all

414
00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:14,480
of this stuff

415
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um constantly trying to

416
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i don't know for lack of a better term

417
00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:19,919
debunk lou

418
00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:21,039
um

419
00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,559
but it's funny in that email he gave a

420
00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:24,320
whole list of people that could back him

421
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up

422
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:27,360
and he even says if that's not enough

423
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let me know i'll get you more

424
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um

425
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,440
so it was quite clear that he was like

426
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:35,200
enough of this effort around here my

427
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:37,039
reputation and my possible career

428
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:42,470
which you know if you just take it for

429
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,440
what it what it is uh that's terrible

430
00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:47,600
that's awful

431
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:51,350
yeah

432
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,280
so that's

433
00:19:57,990 --> 00:19:55,280
you know let's ask in a little bit more

434
00:19:59,350 --> 00:19:58,000
about mr

435
00:20:03,990 --> 00:19:59,360
elizondo

436
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:06,310
in the kind of snippet that was shared

437
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:10,000
by i think it was strategic doubt

438
00:20:15,510 --> 00:20:13,760
yeah strategic doubt shared it

439
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:15,520
and i don't want to botch it so what i'm

440
00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:17,679
really going to do is try to just bring

441
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:19,679
this up

442
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:20,640
and

443
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:24,320
a lot of people talking about it

444
00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:25,520
obviously

445
00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:28,240
and maybe thinking about it in different

446
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:30,720
kinds of ways and what i mean by that is

447
00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:38,149
and you know i told you if you on

448
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,840
twitter

449
00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:42,159
you know to be fair

450
00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:51,350
that uh he thought lou was possibly

451
00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:53,200
um pretty good at the

452
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:55,280
remote viewing stuff

453
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,960
so

454
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,240
first of all

455
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:01,039
we'll go down to the highlighted part

456
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,280
um you can read the rest if you want

457
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:07,360
it's definitely pretty interesting but

458
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,280
we only have so much time right

459
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:11,039
so at the bottom

460
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:12,880
is where i'm going to as he enjoyed his

461
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,520
steak tartare

462
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,120
who would have thought heats were a

463
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:19,760
steak i like it medium rare

464
00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:21,039
and then somebody on twitter said that

465
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:24,400
they like it um

466
00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:25,600
well done

467
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:34,950
so anyways

468
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:37,600
uh elizondo regaled uh those around him

469
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:39,520
with some more stories

470
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:42,640
including one here raising exploit about

471
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,799
how his advanced intuition and remote

472
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,360
viewing capabilities it saved his life

473
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:49,520
and the life of his men while on a

474
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,760
covert combat mission in war-torn

475
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,280
afghanistan

476
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,280
and then you know says nice things about

477
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:57,440
lou as far as it's too detail-oriented

478
00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:59,360
and has a open mind

479
00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:01,679
and then we got after that dinner plank

480
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,360
nothing so you'll have to get the book

481
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,000
which is available on kindle now

482
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:08,080
um amazon do you can get it the

483
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,350
um yeah i'm waiting for my book to show

484
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,280
up too it should be here soon i think it

485
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,799
didn't seem like it was gonna take too

486
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,640
long so

487
00:22:21,990 --> 00:22:20,159
that's good i think in a couple days

488
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:22,000
possibly

489
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:23,840
so you know we can only go so far with

490
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:27,600
this stuff until we do read the book

491
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,039
you know what i mean

492
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:35,029
and then it brings us to

493
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:38,400
kind of another person in this story

494
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:40,480
which is

495
00:22:50,789 --> 00:22:47,430
there he is

496
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,799
look at that guy that's the irish guy

497
00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,840
i don't know you gotta have something to

498
00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,520
look at right putting up little graphics

499
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,280
i don't know

500
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:58,400
uh yeah that's a good point kenny

501
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:01,919
um well it's dod

502
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,720
it wasn't written by the by the pentagon

503
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,799
um but

504
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,640
it was like

505
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,200
approved so it took 14 months that's one

506
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,440
thing that was mentioned in the video

507
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,440
um that it took 14 months to get

508
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:17,200
approved by the dod

509
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:19,520
so you know it's pretty interesting i

510
00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:23,039
heard you know one person say

511
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:24,000
um

512
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,679
it doesn't mean anything that the dod

513
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:27,440
approved it doesn't mean any of this was

514
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:28,960
true or any of that

515
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:31,039
i would just say like why did it take so

516
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,000
long

517
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:33,760
you know

518
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,640
are they taking 14 months to do it to be

519
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,000
you know read the book and go yeah

520
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,240
whatever do you do whatever you want and

521
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:44,159
would they even just put their stamp on

522
00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:46,960
something so ridiculous

523
00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,120
if it was just completely untrue they

524
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:51,200
put their allow them to put that stamp

525
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:52,640
on i don't know how that works but it

526
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,230
so

527
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,710
um

528
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:09,590
uh what doc are we talking about

529
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:11,200
i'm sorry

530
00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,430
i mean you can go on cia's website into

531
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,120
their foyer reading room and get all

532
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:22,000
sorts of remote viewing stuff from sri

533
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,400
um with you know swan and that other guy

534
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:28,400
who said he got like a stone from john

535
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:31,279
lennon yuri or something

536
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:34,400
and then there was

537
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:34,730
um

538
00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:37,919
[Laughter]

539
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:39,440
you know there's

540
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:42,159
kit green i believe too um they have

541
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:44,159
their like session where they were i

542
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:45,760
think it was jupiter they were trying to

543
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:47,840
get eyes on jupiter is in there you can

544
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:49,679
look at all that stuff i was actually

545
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,600
looking at a lot of that last night

546
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,760
because i just find it very interesting

547
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:56,240
um and it went on for a very long time

548
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:57,760
you can see the results you can see

549
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,080
their practices you can see the targets

550
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,679
you can see what they drew you can see

551
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,960
their scores

552
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:04,320
you can

553
00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,799
actually look at a meeting where they're

554
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,279
talking about the different people who

555
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:11,440
tried and this guy we didn't like or

556
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,200
that girl wasn't this

557
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:14,960
um but they don't use their names they

558
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,600
just like use them by a number basically

559
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,880
so you don't really know who they're

560
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:20,480
talking about but

561
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:22,159
um

562
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:23,679
you know and there's some other stuff

563
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,840
like uh well we don't have to tell

564
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,320
the dod right now about this or that you

565
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:33,909
that's just how it goes

566
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,720
matthew's got a good gamut indigo swan's

567
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:39,600
book penetration

568
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,789
yeah you know that's an interesting

569
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,480
point matthew like

570
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,360
i think a lot of people get um

571
00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:53,840
defensive right away because like i

572
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:55,760
don't believe it so i gotta fight

573
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,960
against it but i think that's kind of a

574
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,480
you know what i've done that before too

575
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:02,080
i guess but that's kind of a silly way

576
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:07,909
because first of all if you're really

577
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:09,520
putting your ego down which is super

578
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:12,240
hard to do for me and i'm sure you

579
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:13,279
um

580
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,799
you have to admit that you don't really

581
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:16,480
know anything

582
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:17,600
like

583
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:18,320
so

584
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,080
to say you don't believe this or that

585
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:21,760
enough to like fight about it is pretty

586
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:24,720
ridiculous

587
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:30,230
um

588
00:26:34,710 --> 00:26:31,039
so

589
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:34,720
gentleman

590
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,070
and it's not the same person

591
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:44,559
but they do look very similar is like

592
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:51,350
and for a second i had to do a double

593
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,520
take like that's not the

594
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,960
same

595
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:57,679
guy is it

596
00:27:01,350 --> 00:26:59,919
um

597
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,360
you know i'm going to go on a limb and

598
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:03,440
say it isn't although they do look

599
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,190
and it was kind of funny

600
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:10,880
i was like what is that guy doing this

601
00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,210
for

602
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:13,520
[Laughter]

603
00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:16,640
so anyways so he actually tells a story

604
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:18,960
um to george on the interview

605
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,000
in regards to something pretty

606
00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,200
intense which really um

607
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:27,440
got me thinking

608
00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:29,600
and it's a story about a bio

609
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:31,039
technologist

610
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,120
who is on the road

611
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,760
um with his family i believe it is

612
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:36,880
and

613
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,840
i think his wife sees three

614
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:42,080
basically unidentifieds

615
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,600
i'm just

616
00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:45,760
you know probably orbs i'm guessing like

617
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:47,600
white orbs or something

618
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,360
um and as they kind of approach or the

619
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:53,200
wife sees them

620
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:54,960
two of them

621
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,080
i think it's two actually get in the car

622
00:28:01,029 --> 00:28:00,000
so they're like baseball size they're

623
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,039
small

624
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,039
and one

625
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:05,919
goes through the guy's shoulder and out

626
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:12,789
um

627
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:15,279
and he got

628
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:16,799
pretty messed up

629
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:21,600
so he got burns um and wound up getting

630
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:24,960
cancer like eye cancer i believe

631
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,520
and it was treated

632
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,120
thankfully

633
00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:31,360
but they studied that case for years and

634
00:28:36,159 --> 00:28:43,029
that is

635
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:45,430
that's something you know in the the

636
00:28:54,870 --> 00:28:52,630
we have no idea we still don't know what

637
00:29:08,230 --> 00:28:54,880
they were

638
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,269
um

639
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,760
that stinks

640
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,200
have something like that out there and

641
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:16,000
you're not really sure how to handle it

642
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:17,279
if you don't know what they are how do

643
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,480
you know where they're going to show up

644
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:20,000
or what they're going to do or what the

645
00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:22,720
agenda is obviously

646
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,640
which you know a lot of that is what

647
00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:26,480
we're trying to do now is figure out

648
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,029
um in origin

649
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,549
but it's interesting

650
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,559
it's very interesting

651
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:40,320
i just can't believe that that is so

652
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:42,720
intense but anyways they had

653
00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,000
you know i think it was over a hundred

654
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,840
people around the world cases around the

655
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:50,159
world where they had harmful effects

656
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:57,830
harmful causes

657
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,039
you know so when you think about this

658
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,440
kind of stuff and then you go back to

659
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,760
the xuap guy and what he was talking

660
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,320
about on twitter well

661
00:30:10,290 --> 00:30:08,559
you know i'm pretty sure

662
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:10,300
that's what he was talking about

663
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,230
you know

664
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,559
and if i knew that as a fact or if i've

665
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,720
seen it or whatever like i'd probably be

666
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:24,720
saying the same stuff he was saying

667
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,399
um

668
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,870
were they even aware of the arm

669
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:34,070
they it

670
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:42,470
because you know something lou does say

671
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,000
is you know a lot of it could be a

672
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,240
byproduct of it it doesn't necessarily

673
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,240
mean that they're you know trying to do

674
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:51,120
any harm it's just you know

675
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,559
like when they go around a plane and

676
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,399
their radars get

677
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,399
weird and electronics get weird it may

678
00:31:03,110 --> 00:30:58,320
not be that it's done on purpose as much

679
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,070
you know

680
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,870
drop the docks

681
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,990
so that's that's um

682
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:17,750
you know that stuff gets pretty intense

683
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:24,230
um the other things that he talked about

684
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,240
is

685
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:28,640
just the database the largest databases

686
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:30,799
that they have largest in the world

687
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:33,679
like 11 different databases

688
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,480
just a lot of information so

689
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,080
but when you hit on something like that

690
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:42,310
you know forces your attention on that

691
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:51,269
so

692
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:52,880
you know that's a lot of information

693
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:55,200
that came out yesterday

694
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,799
um in you know in a nutshell

695
00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,960
we were told that this book is going to

696
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:02,559
be a

697
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:06,640
synopsis of the program asap and

698
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:10,880
encounters at skinwalker and

699
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:12,799
you know maybe some things that military

700
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:14,960
people took with them home to their

701
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:21,909
you know and

702
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:24,640
so some of it sounds pretty nasty

703
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:27,360
and not good

704
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:28,640
right

705
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:31,600
now does that mean

706
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,600
you know and what i can't help but think

707
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:35,279
of is

708
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:37,600
you know some of the stuff lou would say

709
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:40,320
earlier is why this stuff would be

710
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:42,559
stopped and it's because people thought

711
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:44,960
they were demons

712
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:52,310
is that true are they demons or are they

713
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:53,120
just

714
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:56,559
something that's scary to them and

715
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:03,990
you know but i think we'll find out a

716
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:06,320
lot more once you read the book

717
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,590
walford on twitter um he

718
00:33:18,230 --> 00:33:15,679
he likes the book you know

719
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:18,240
he said it's a doozy

720
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,399
so i'm guessing it is a doozy i already

721
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,919
know there was one story in there that

722
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,080
he was talking about that's like exactly

723
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,559
what happened to him in his life

724
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:29,600
um so that's probably

725
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:33,840
um pretty important stuff for him i know

726
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:35,919
you know the first time i kind of heard

727
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,559
a read a story that was somewhat similar

728
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:39,600
to mine

729
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:46,470
i took my breath away a little bit

730
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:47,519
so

731
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:50,320
grays not demons

732
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,159
you know that's interesting that you say

733
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:55,039
that you know i came across and maybe

734
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:07,110
um frank churches

735
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,710
yeah well you know i i think we're

736
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:10,159
putting the cart in front of the horse a

737
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:17,109
let me tell you this if they care about

738
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:18,079
uh

739
00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:20,240
you know their names and what you call

740
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:21,200
them

741
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:22,560
um then you're putting their

742
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:25,040
intelligence level down by us

743
00:34:36,069 --> 00:34:33,510
oh yeah there you go

744
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,079
extra testicles you could call them by

745
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,430
that's kind of funny i'm sorry

746
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,589
did she approve e.t

747
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:47,359
did she approve

748
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,639
oh she's

749
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:50,560
just the one right

750
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:52,720
um

751
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:57,599
want to touch on something

752
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:01,520
um later today uh luel zondo is on the

753
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,400
on disclosure teams podcast

754
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:05,920
um

755
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:09,599
and i think he's gonna do a

756
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,320
demonstration of this ai software

757
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,640
so we'll see how that goes

758
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,720
um

759
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:20,400
i mean i'm i'm sure it'll be great or

760
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,920
whatever um if they use

761
00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:25,839
that dude andy's video that'll be kind

762
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,880
of kind of suspicious to me but

763
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:31,200
you know almost like it was

764
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:33,440
thrown out there on purpose for

765
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:34,880
them to use the

766
00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:35,920
software

767
00:35:40,630 --> 00:35:38,079
but you know whatever

768
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,640
got to do what you got to do

769
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,640
um and i don't know that that's the case

770
00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:44,400
so it's just something

771
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:47,040
that my suspicious mind

772
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:48,640
thinks of

773
00:35:56,829 --> 00:35:54,710
i have something interesting we could do

774
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,839
that we haven't done in a

775
00:36:02,710 --> 00:35:59,680
while um

776
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:08,550
you should call into the show

777
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,870
um i got a phone line so

778
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:13,359
you know don't even have to get dressed

779
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,069
but you don't have to but i am going to

780
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:22,640
put the phone number up there so you can

781
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,430
and

782
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,470
we can chat we can chat about whatever

783
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:37,270
video link so we know it's